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For a while there it looked like the biggest story surrounding the Beijing Olympics in the Australian media was going to be Tibet, media freedom or human rights. In stricter sporting terms it might have been the rise of China, the Michael Phelps phenomenon, or Jamaican domination of the sprint events in the Olympics.
Closer to home it could have been the familiar triumph of the swimmers, the out-of-the-box performance of Sally McLellan, or the classic triumph over adversity story of Anna Meares.
But no - cue doom-laden music and images of desolation - a pall was cast over the Games that began to obscure all else. It is that the medal table (that isn't supposed to exist in any official sense) showed Team GB ahead of Australia in both gold- and all-medal tallies.
Putting aside the atmospherics for a moment, underlying this dark mood is the business as usual special pleading for Olympic funding. Australian Olympic Committee President John Coates and co, and their predecessors, always have a new tune to play, but with the same chorus. Give us more public money, to the strains of a 1930s Depression anthem that now seems curiously Olympian, "Once I built a tower, up to the sun, brick, and rivet, and lime; Once I built a tower, now it's done. Brother, can you spare a dime?"
Hardly anyone takes seriously, on grounds of stubborn lack of evidence, the old justification that funding Olympic sport makes the nation sportier and healthier, so the pitch is mainly about national pride, tradition and world standing, with a technocratic side-spin on intellectual property exploitation. The plea for more federal funding assiduously ignores the contributions of the State Institutes of Sport, local government, corporate sponsorship and other financial and in-kind support for Olympians, but such relevant details just blur the message.
Post-Montreal 1976 and the 'humiliation' of no gold medals brought the Australian Institute of Sport (AIS) after Eastern Europe and the American colleges showed the way. Before Sydney 2000 it was the need for a good medal haul before a home audience, and afterwards the imperative of maintaining the newly elevated medal count in, first, the home of the modern Olympics, and then the honey pot of contemporary global capital.
Looking towards London 2012, what better line to push than replaying the drama of Federation and the imperative of heading off the embarrassment of a British victory over its former colony in the heart of Old Empire?
Bolstering this plea is the frequent complaint that the Brits are using national lottery money to support the Olympic effort (a trick they learnt from the southern Europeans) and are able to scour the world for the best coaching talent, including, outrageously, Australians.
These quislings, their apoplectic critics imply, should be brought back to face justice in their home nation, perhaps using some of the more extravagant provisions of the Anti-Terrorism Act.
Little, though, is said about the many coaches from overseas at the AIS. Starting with A for Archery there is Kyo Moon Oh from South Korea, then B for Boxing's East German Bodo Andreass, C for Cycling's Martin Barras from Canada, and so on. I'm unaware of calls for dismissal and deportation of these globally mobile sport professionals. Good taste counsels against dwelling on the 1997 hiring by Athletics Australia of Ekkart Arbeit, the East German athlete doper and spy, as head coach. Nor will I mention the nationalities of the current association and rugby football coaches.
Australia will not be too fussy about where it sources its elite Olympic coaches as long they do their main job of beating Britain. Deploying the British spectre to advance the cyclical claim for more Olympic funding is a vivid demonstration that sport, so abstract and bizarre in many respects, is given meaning by its enmeshment in history, politics and culture. Sport for most people only takes on importance when they care about the result and its interpretation, rather than the technical excellence of often arcane contests. Many Australians in the 21st century, it seems, can still have their buttons pushed by resentments stemming from the 19th century.
When Kate Ellis, Australian Minister for Sport, struck a pre-Games wager with her British counterpart that the one boasting fewer Beijing medals would wear the other's colours at their next sporting contest, she wasn't only tapping into the history of Australian nationalism. In the light of Australia's continuing postcolonial nightmare of British ascendancy in sport, she was offering to (and now must) wear a hair shirt and a crown of thorns all the way to the Millennium Dome in 2012.
Professor David Rowe is Director of the Centre for Cultural Research, University of Western Sydney, author of Sport, Culture and the Media: The Unruly Trinity, and an expatriate Brit.
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DeepFritz:
25 Aug 2008 8:55:02am
Britain won the bulk of their medals in 3 sports only and were nowhere near in all the others...
Funnily enough with these sports, they all involved sitting down on your backside (Cycling, Rowing and Sailing)...Agree (1) Alert moderator
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Daze:
25 Aug 2008 1:03:02pm
And Australia won nearly half of their medals (20 out of 43) in just one sport, so your point is?
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Wortho:
25 Aug 2008 2:37:49pm
And most of them were won by the ladies. Australian men actually performed pretty poorly overall.
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Neal:
25 Aug 2008 4:04:03pm
I think just qualifying and competing is a pretty significant sporting achievement Wortho.
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Ads:
25 Aug 2008 7:16:16pm
A quick point. It is much more difficult for men to win medals as there is more competition. Not trying to take anything away from the women athletes, they were amazing, but please lets keep this in context.
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Big Yin:
25 Aug 2008 9:08:39am
The likes of Kate Ellis & John Coates need to go and take a cold shower! All this jingoistic, parochial rubbish, dressed up as nationalistic fervour, by both the UK and Australia, justs goes to show petty-minded insecurity of the Coates' and Ellis' and demeans the effort and performance of ALL the athletes!
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PaulB:
25 Aug 2008 9:54:17am
The issue with the Brits, is that Australians have convinced themselves, that they are a uniquely superior breed of human being, derived of the purest ANZAC genes. Of course nothing could be further from the truth. (Fattest nation on earth?)
Our superior sports performance has been a result of large amounts of well invested money, by government. And, now our competitors are doing the same and reaping the rewards. Hopefully the bronzed Aussie bluster balloon, will defalte a little; too acceptable levels of parochial self delusion.Agree (1) Alert moderator
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MO:
25 Aug 2008 10:59:02am
PaulB, you need to add poaching the Aussie coaches and AIS model to your list. Or did you forget that bit?
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Brad:
25 Aug 2008 12:11:58pm
We should scrap the AIS and put the money into sports programs in schools. That might actually do something to benefit the nation through reducing childhood obesity.
Adding competitive sports programs to existing education programs, where they get an education first but also play sport, is commercially and educationally viable. Look at the popularity of college sport in the USA. Here a cricket or football match between two schools or universities barely rates a mention in the student rag.Agree (0) Alert moderator
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mark:
25 Aug 2008 1:25:35pm
Hear, Hear. Forget about elite sport and make sure that facilities are availble to the masses.
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simon:
25 Aug 2008 4:50:28pm
concurre - more sports coaching in schools! that'd be great
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Jim Bendfeldt:
25 Aug 2008 4:31:56pm
Too much money already gets invested in sport in this country. Every village has at least two football ovals for different codes, a cricket pitch, tennis courts, basketball or netball hoops, swimming pool and an unknown number of other sporting fields, as well as a range of 'for-profit' and 'not-for-profit' clubs trying to raise money for their particular activities.
What about throwing some energy and money (even some loose change) into non-sporting activities. How will Australia ever become a 'clever' country without some support for intellectual activities?
Or are we destined to remain a nation of sporting buffoons?Agree (0) Alert moderator
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Brad:
25 Aug 2008 12:03:33pm
Being the fattest nation on earth is conclusive proof that all this taxpayer money being spent on elite sport is contributing nothing to the country.
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Bruce:
26 Aug 2008 7:29:26am
Paul, get a grip ...we are a nation of just 20 million as compared to how many million in Great Britain, America, China etc? Per capita we shine like no other..live with it!
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Olympicus:
25 Aug 2008 9:19:46am
The Olympic Games feature many sports which are not culturally or historically significant in this country. Handball, table tennis and gymnastics are but a few examples. Why not introduce Rugby Union, and 20/20 cricket as well? By the way, we should get over the Brits beating us, we were beaten by the better squad fair and square.
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twobob:
25 Aug 2008 2:42:46pm
Given the difference in populations they bloody well should have beaten us. But if you take into account the population difference then we did go well on a medal per person basis. I would still contend that the brits are actually underachieving.
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Barnes Bugle:
25 Aug 2008 9:24:02am
Don't think that sprinting or boxing involves too much sitting down.
19 gold medals. Remind me again how many you guys and girls got?Agree (0) Alert moderator
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Sam Guest:
25 Aug 2008 2:53:58pm
A higher number of golds per capita than most other countries including GB.
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Bill:
25 Aug 2008 4:33:50pm
It doesn't really matter how many people you have, it's how much money you put into it.
I'd imagine that medals per dollar spent we would be quite low.
I've read it cost us anywhere from $10 million to $40 million per gold medal. Even at the low end of the scale I'd imagine that is a lot more money per medal than most other countries.Agree (0) Alert moderator
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Dan:
25 Aug 2008 4:56:26pm
Actually, if you do the sums for all the countries, we came 7th in the medal tally per capita. That's worse than the total medal count. I'm sick of hearing that line, Im sure that the people who come up with it only look at the teams above us on the table to compare.
Also, if you compare the medal haul to the amount spent on the athletes then Im pretty sure you will find Australia near the bottom.Agree (0) Alert moderator
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Sam Guest:
26 Aug 2008 8:19:23am
Gee, so you're saying per capita we're top ten? thanks for making my point that any way you look at it we did perform well as a nation, the per capita comparison was so Mr Bugle doesn't get cocky about how many gold medals the Brits won, but thanks for butting in with your little whinge.
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Jim:
25 Aug 2008 9:31:09am
There are very good reasons why Pride and Envy are listed as two of the seven deadly sins.
There are many more serious issues to worry about and find the funding for than to lament our Olympic medal count, especially as ours was in reality also an outstanding performance in relation to the rest of the world.Agree (0) Alert moderator
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Spider Dijon:
25 Aug 2008 9:32:34am
Wow, so much text with absolutely no point. The writing is so bland and uninteresting. I want my two minutes back.
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Fratelli:
25 Aug 2008 9:48:31am
Who gives a damn? Like Olympicus (25 Aug 2008 9:19:46am) said, many sports in the Games are rarely heard of in AUstralia, let alone played.
The Brits clearly performed better overall over the two weeks, and good on them. Are we expected to win everything? Of course not. Should we also have a problem with the Germans and Russians 'beating us'? No way.
Besides, I think a haul of 46 medals (Britain achieved 47) is a bloody good effort considering we have a population of 21 million, apparently limited funding and the fact that most of the country's pastimes include sports not even played in the Games (AFL, cricket, Union, League etc).
So dry your eyes, congratulate the opposition and show a bit of bloody pride in what our athletes DID achieve, rather than what they didnt.Agree (0) Alert moderator
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Lindsay Cooper:
25 Aug 2008 10:03:56am
This media hype over who has the most medals just keeps the stupidity ongoing.
First of all, most sports were meant to be participated in, not critical spectatoring.
I like to see the best sportsperson winning which ever country they come from.
I thought getting people to play sport was the original idea behind sport. Not sitting on your fat arse and criticising people that you would not able to do 1% of what they are capable of.
Why do we worry at all about how many medals each country wins, this is just another egotisical competition encouraged by the people who make a lot of money from the sport. One word sums it all up EGO.
DO YOU KNOW THAT HALF THE WORLD DON'T HAVE ENOUGH TO EAT, CHILDREN ARE STARVING AND YOU THINK THAT SPORT IS SO IMPORTANT.
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Joe:
25 Aug 2008 2:28:37pm
Yep, with you Lyndsay. Its nice to see athletes win, but it is actually fun and healthy to get out and do something yourself.
And yes, there are people starving, the global environment is on the point of collapse, we are close to running out of economic oil supplies and what are we worrying about...
The other good point was how the human rights, Tibet and other China stories (such as pollution, journo's getting beaten up, light stuff like that) go totally eclipsed by the stupid medal count.Agree (1) Alert moderator
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Bill:
25 Aug 2008 10:12:19am
It seems to me that the Olympics have become an extravagant entertainment with each host country attempting to outdo its predecessor.The medal count has received unneccessary significance and is far removed from the true spirit of the Olympic games.
Organisers and others who benefit financially are urging increased spending in a bid to win more medals.However,we are told that each gold medal won by an Australian athlete at Beijing cost the taxpayer seventeen million dollars.
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faholo:
25 Aug 2008 3:00:00pm
I was reading a book my son borrowed from library about gladiators and how they come about was initially some poor slave was sacrificed in a fight to the death when a wealthy person died. (the fight happened as part of the service) The wealthy competed to have the most battles at their funeral with one chap having a week long period of mourning over which 100 battles were fought.
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Stop_the_madness:
25 Aug 2008 10:51:56am
What ever happened to the mantra that "it isn't about winning, it's about taking part"? This obsession with medal tallies sends entirely the wrong message to our kids about what is important in sport.
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United Discord:
25 Aug 2008 11:31:50am
Perhaps a more important question is, "What is the intended and desired message of the medal count?" In this vein, the Oympics have become a type of warfare (without casualties), in which countries can compete against one another and declare their superiority. In China's case, it is an intended clear signal to the world, that the geopolitical power base is changing to the East. The Chinese have been particularly keen to topple the USA, although who was the winner, the one with the most Gold or the one with the most medals?
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Tom:
25 Aug 2008 1:18:14pm
In a way investing massive amounts of resources to make people run fast/jump high/swim quick does have casualties. If those resources were invested in hospitals, schools, universities, police, emergency services, I don't doubt lives would have been saved, and at the very least lives would have been made better. It's a decision that was made, a choice, and one that has had concequences.
What do we want to tell the world? That we care more about our international reputation in sport than our own people.Agree (0) Alert moderator
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Ozzie:
25 Aug 2008 11:13:56am
When faced with a Pom, the important point to remember is that Aussies won more medals (gold or any colour) than the English.
Sure, the UK may have just pipped Australia, but only with the help of Scots, Welsh and Northern Irish. Chris 'The Flying Scotsman' Hoy and others will let you know their medals weren't won for England.Agree (0) Alert moderator
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Joe:
25 Aug 2008 2:30:09pm
Ozzie, the United Kingdom is made up of England, Northern Ireland, Scotland and Wales. I think you are refering to Britain when you incorrectly use UK.
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Jim:
25 Aug 2008 3:25:36pm
The name of the Olympic committee is Great Britain, but it does represent the whole of the UK. So Ozzie is correct.
However, to add further confusion, athelete from Northern Ireland may choose to represent either Great Britain or Northern Ireland.Agree (0) Alert moderator
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Joe:
25 Aug 2008 3:57:15pm
Thanks Jim, but I think I am still right. I believe it is the United Kingdom of Great Britain to which both these abbreviation refer.
Interesting aside on Northern Ireland.Agree (0) Alert moderator
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Fast Ferret:
25 Aug 2008 2:42:34pm
Yes, this is vitally important when meeting a pom. Make sure you tell them when they are sitting with their Australian friends in our bars. Don't forget to tell them also that they have more people than us. And let them know that they took all our trainers. And don't forget to mention the sitting down thing because there's nothing worse than hearing the same snidey comment over and over and over, even if it does make us look like idiots. And make sure you shout it in their faces until they say something back. And don't forget to mention the ashes.
And don't listen when they try to tell us that on the whole the English over there actually quite like Australians and they probably wouldn't be acting so smug now if they hadn't been confronted with this anglophobic obsession for so many years. And when they start with that one, call them bloody whingers and tell them to bugger off back where they came from.
We should have gotten a 5 gold medal start. Bastards!Agree (0) Alert moderator
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MindBend:
25 Aug 2008 11:43:07am
It would appear that not much has changed since Hitler & his merry band of nutters used the 1936 Berlin games to push the idiotic notion of race-based physical superiority as a tool to build nationalistic fervour.
Clearly nations now see the final medal count as an important measure of their 'power'. No surprise that China now rivals the USA at the top of the table. This is atheltic prowess as a proxy for economic or militaristic strength, and is part of the superiority/inferiority complex that many nations feel relative to their reference group. Are we headed back to the bad old days of 'the West' vs the 'Iron Curtain'? Why should it matter which nation collected the most gold medals or where we rank versus Great Britain? I didn't see any competitor find a cure for cancer or broker a peace plan in the middle east over the past two weeks, so let's keep things in perspective. Other than providing some entertainment, none of these medal winners will significantly alter the world for the better. So let's not fall for that old 'bread and circuses' routine and nationalistic chest-beating again.Agree (0) Alert moderator
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Brad:
25 Aug 2008 11:55:41am
No doubt there will be an appeal for more money for elite sport so the AIS-trained athletes can win more gold medals in London.
It already costs is $40 million for every gold medal we win. Spending even more money just to beat the Poms would be obscene when we have so many other pressing social problems in this country. There is absolutely no evidence that winning gold medals contributes anything to this country, e.g. promotes participation in sport. Rising obesity (particularly childhood obesity) is conclusive evidence to the contrary.
Elite sport should pay its own way or go away. Let the commercial media pay for it as they are the only beneficiaries. Our taxes are needed for more important things like health, education, public transport, science, etc.Agree (0) Alert moderator
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Olympic Fan:
25 Aug 2008 12:17:06pm
In some respects you are right. However, sport and success therein, is very much an inseperable part of our own identity and culture. To compete successfully at this level you need an enormous amount of resources. What you may consider important, others may not. Who decides what is important? It is entirely subjective. Is it important to give Toyota $35m to build a car they were already going to build? Is it imortant to spend billions on climate change research while people die from lack lack of food and clean drinking water? Is it important to spend millions on Govt. websites which do little to help struggling families pay less each week?
Regarding your point about no positive outcomes, you are quite incorrect. I know of several swimming facilities who have reported dramatic increases in participation and membership as a result of the Games. Just try booking into some!Agree (0) Alert moderator
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Brad:
25 Aug 2008 1:22:34pm
There are always outliers in any average, but the average weight in Australia is increasing. This does not demonstrate any relationship between winning gold medals and improving participation, let alone reducing childhood obesity. The opposite is true.
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John R:
25 Aug 2008 12:36:29pm
Now if I'd known that each of those gold medals was going to be costing me personally $2 a pop, and if I was actually watching it, and if I thought it'd make a difference, I might just back the British.
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Dwayne:
25 Aug 2008 12:25:23pm
Britain beats us at a lot of things, I don't cry myself to sleep at night over it though. I go to sleep knowing that we'll eventually beat them at more important things (like; breathing and succeeding at life).
Britain can win a medal, but a drinking contest against Australia (don't flatter yourself). Put sports in the Olympics that we'll be sure to win over many other countries (like Cricket & roo hunting).Agree (0) Alert moderator
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JayR:
25 Aug 2008 4:50:48pm
As its a given that Britain is superior in most things of human achievement (say music, art, literature, culture in general i suppose) the fact that they 'beat' us in the olympics must hurt a lot of dumb aussies sense of pride!
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A Pom Abroad:
25 Aug 2008 12:43:41pm
If the Olympics really is all about individual performances and not about nationhood - if nationhood is immaterial, why all these bitter recriminations? And why did we hear nothing about this at Sydney 2000 or Athens 2004? Was it perhaps because you were winning more medals then? Surely the Olympic ideal is also represented by supporters who applaud their team whether they win or lose? It's no use questioning the use of government money now simply because it didn't bring back the expected haul of gold medals.
Questioning the UK's use of national lottery money is pitiful and I would have expected more of a national who has produced a nation of winning sportsmen and who (supposedly) deride the idea of 'whingers'. The UK has done little different to other countries who funnel large amounts of government money into sport and who employ large numbers of foreign coaches. If the UK has done better at that particular game, then surely the answer for your olympic committee is to do better, rather than sulk and whinge and complain that it's all not fair. Or maybe Australia's famous sports stars have given us an inaccurate, overcomplimentary view of the nature of the formiddable and courageous Australia psyche. Maybe we exported whinging out here along with the convicts?
While I'll agree that the Olympics consumes a vast amount of money which could be used elsewhere, you would do well to be wary of abandoning it for reasons of cost-effectiveness. We all need some reflected glow of victory to make us feel that life is more than just a matter of balanced budgets and frugal spending. The Olympics has enlivened a recession-ravaged UK just as it fired up Australia. At $40m a medal, it may be expensive entertainment but it is something you throw away at your peril.
I'll be looking forward to 2012 and another record UK medal haul. If you're all moaning and griping then too, or laughably suggesting England, Scotland, Wales and Northen Ireland compete separately to help you out (what next, should Queensland and New South Wales compete separately too) then you'll probably be exactly where you are on the medal table now - or lower.Agree (0) Alert moderator
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Doug Mc:
25 Aug 2008 1:08:22pm
When you look at the top medal winning countries and their huge populations and then you see Australia, who cares where we ended up 4th, 6th or 10th, we did amazingly well for a small country and we should be so very proud of our athletes, to punch above their weight in so many areas.
Let the poms have their moment of glory, as when China and India hit their peak in the future, good luck to any other country getting more than a mere handful of medals in any sport.
I say well done all the small nations, such as Jamaica, New Zealand and Denmark, as these small nations should be crowing about their results much more than GB or Australia.Agree (0) Alert moderator
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jak:
25 Aug 2008 1:15:21pm
"In the light of Australia's continuing postcolonial nightmare of British ascendancy in sport"
LOL - Cheeky comments like this is the reason why I love seeing England consistently fail in sport; whether it is watching them fail to make a major soccer tournament, or losing the Ashes 5-0, or not having anyone ever make any progress in Wimbledon. Rare moments of success, like the last olympics or the ashes several years ago, merely keep the contest interesting.
I'm not sure why he reads a post colonial past into this as most Australians are descended from people who migrated here after colonialism: I just like watching england lose because it is fun.Agree (0) Alert moderator
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barneseye:
25 Aug 2008 1:47:12pm
Apparently, each of our gold medals cost 'us' (the aust people) $16M. Yet I understand that as soon as each gold medalist obtains their gold medal, companies start courting them for multi-million dollar endorsement contracts. How about repaying the debt so that funding for future sports-people can continue/expand?
I am a professional with a professional size HECs debt. Because of my success, I repay it. Should this (sport) be any different? Any athlete that receives money from the Aust people who recieves financial benefit from our investment should be asked to repay a certain amount, or have to forgo a certain amount of the contract amount.
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RoseR:
25 Aug 2008 2:11:20pm
Any athlete spending time at the AIS should also receive a HECS charge like academic students. Then the successful ones with the million dollar contracts should repay - again just like academic students - or do we value brawn more than brains?
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Brad:
25 Aug 2008 4:37:12pm
It costs more than that. The Australian Sports Commission spends $140 million per year on elite sport. Four years between games = $560 million. Divide by 14 gold medals = $40 million per medal.
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Trevor:
25 Aug 2008 1:57:27pm
It's almost embarrassing to watch people like Coates complain about our 'low' medal tally. Given our population, we actually do ridiculously well to be in the top half-dozen nations.
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James Mason:
25 Aug 2008 2:21:54pm
As the Barmy Army likes to sing to Australians, whenever they are visiting 'Down Under', "Get your S--T stars off our flag!"
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pk:
25 Aug 2008 2:32:21pm
Well, thanks the Lord that's over. Good to see the Wallabies win in Sth Africa for the first time in 8 years. A lot more relevant than the last 3 weeks of badminton/handball/rowing/zzzzzz
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Spot:
25 Aug 2008 3:08:09pm
Sounds like a stoush between people who used to rule the world and people who think they should rule the world.
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Lionel:
25 Aug 2008 3:13:22pm
Let's get real about this gold medal nonsense!
If you rate the number of gold medals won by each nation against the population, you get:
1. Jamaica
2. Bahrain
3. Estonia
4. New Zealand
5. Georgia
6. AUSTRALIA
7. Norway
8. Slovakia
9. Slovenia
10. Latvia
China, USA, GB, Germany,Russia don't even get on the top 10 list!
The bad news is we are behind NZ!!!!!!!!!
Cheers,
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Will:
25 Aug 2008 3:40:57pm
The gold medals by population thing is a pretty useless stat in my opinion. Really comes down to the emphasis and money put into the sports in each country.
It's abit like rugby union. New Zealanders constanty bleat that the all blacks have owned Australia and other international teams for decades, (apart from World cups.....ie win ratios). In reality the player pool they have to choose from is immensely bigger and their organisational structure superior. It was the dominant Wallaby teams of the 90's and early 2000s playing above their weight. Not vice versa.
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Jim:
25 Aug 2008 3:30:13pm
Frankly I think that Great Britain will be more annoyed at having come behind Germany than elated at having beaten Australia. After all, with a population three times the size they should have the resources to beat Australia every time. The fact that they havn't done so regularly is the real aberration.
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Dave:
25 Aug 2008 3:35:25pm
Perhaps someone should do a medal tally based on the countries' standard of living.
Funny, I didn't see Norway, Sweden, Canada, Switzerland anywhere near the top of the medal tables.
Perhaps other important aspects of life are being sacrificed so we can win a few more gold medals in sports most people don't care about.
I'm not trying to be a bore and I don't think it is a waste to spend some money on arts, sports and other forms of non-essential community entertainment. But there is something definetly not right when we are near the top of the medal table with the population we have.
I read that the entire Canadian Olympic program cost $25 million and this was an increased amount because they have the Olympics in 2010. How much did we spend on the Olympics here? Could some of that money be better spent on health, education, roads etc???Agree (0) Alert moderator
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Fratelli:
25 Aug 2008 9:48:13pm
Not sure where you got your info from or whether its a typo, but the next Games are in 2012, London.
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Travis:
25 Aug 2008 3:52:18pm
I don't think that the Olympic Games, the one true world event, should be played out as a competition between two countries - Australia and Great Britain. Best leave that for the Ashes.
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henalf:
25 Aug 2008 4:03:09pm
What about some of the billions being spent on sport,going to the pensioners. Uk and Australia are both low down in the pensioner tables. Talk about Nero fiddling whist Rome burnt! It would be interesting to know just how much these sporting colleges cost the taxpayer.
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Brad:
25 Aug 2008 4:35:53pm
You can find out exactly how much this costs the Australian taxpayer by reading the Australian Sports Commission's annual report.
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bullfrog:
25 Aug 2008 4:52:50pm
The Olympics seem to be the 'circuses' of the 'bread and circuses' to keep the masses happy.
Personally, I'd prefer more the bread side (like increasing the pension, or improving public hospitals, or improving the schools, or, or, or) rather than celebration of elitism.
I can't help but think of the medical research that could have been funded, or new teaching spots, or even mass training of physical education teachers, which at least might have increased the participation rate.
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leone:
25 Aug 2008 5:33:28pm
Durng the first week of the games a small and insignificant item appeared briefly in our sports-obsessed media. It said that Australian scientists had made an important breakthrough in determining the cause of leukaemia. This would help in the development of a new treatment which, it was hoped, would prevent the disease developing.
While meatheads who managed to swim or run faster than a bunch of other meatheads were being feted as heroes by our fawning media the scientists who might have found a way to prevent a deadly disease were ignored. I know who the true heroes are here.
Just a small fraction of the funds showered on elite sportspersons might see this treatment come to fruition but pigs will fly before that happens. It's more important for one more pampered athlete to win one more medal before buggering off to make squillions out of promoting muesli bars or undies than it is to develop a way to prevent a disease which kills.
Now we are being deluged with pleas for more sports funding in the hope that more cash will equal a win over the poms in 2012. What a colossal waste.Agree (0) Alert moderator
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rb:
25 Aug 2008 8:03:03pm
Once-Upon-A-Time, the Olympic Games were for amateurs only. If an individual was paid a brass razoo for his/her athletic prowess, then he/she was automatically disqualified from participating in any Olympics. Period. No arguments!
The opposite applies these days. Millions of dollars are made by athletes winning gold medals, while most amateurs have a chance of a snowflake in hell of competing successfully at an Olympic level.
Now and then an individual appears with natural talent (e.g., Jamaica's Usain Bolt) that beats the pants off the competition without seemingly trying very hard. These were the individuals who prevailed at the early Olympics without training day in and day out!
Many of the modern athletes seem to train well beyond the capacity of their bodies to absorb such punishment, just to chase that elusive gold medal. That would explain the constant physical brake-downs, strains and muscle tears in many of our athletes.
Which brings me to the point of population numbers. The larger the population the more the chances of finding sufficiently gifted individual(s) to chase world records and Olympic glory.
Australia has been punching well above its weight (population wise) in modern Olympics for many decades now. Our 14 gold medals (and 46 overall) compares quite favourably with Great Britain's 19 and 47 respectively, in view of the disparity in our respective population numbers.
Furthermore, the Brits have millions of pounds (from lotteries I believe) to throw at their athletes, so it is no wonder that theirs were more past-the-post-first than ours.
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Adrian Matthews:
25 Aug 2008 9:08:14pm
Fact is, I didn't lift a finger to help "Team GB" (yuk!) to win a single gold or anything else. OK, the government took some tax off me and I did buy a couple of lottery tickets in the last 4 years. I'm just glad to know so many people put their heart and soul into taking part. And I did enjoy watching some amazingly perfect performances from all over the world, though deeply troubled at times by the location's reported treatment of its own people. If some of my compatriots are stupid enough to crow about victories they likewise have done nothing significant to achieve, and if some Australians are feeling aggrieved because "they" didn't do as well as hoped, I don't think I'm going to be too worried about that. I'm looking forward to London 2012 as a big party to be enjoyed - surely it can't be as bad as the 8 minute handover slot?! Couldn't really care less if more British (UK?) or Australians win gold, or which percentage population, or who gets the biggest haul of all medals ( USA's preferred option because they do better that way) or any other way a country tries to validate itself.
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Andrew:
26 Aug 2008 8:18:16am
Adrian, as an Australian I strongly agree with the sentiment of your posting. I have been appalled by comments flung backwards and forwards between British and Australians who are suddenly armchair experts, but certainly were not competing in Beijing, and clearly have no understanding of the Olympic spirit.
I am about to run my second marathon in the US for which I have trained for many months, but will finish with a very average time. Most competitors in the Beijing men's marathon would outpace me by at least two minutes per mile. When I put the games in this perspective, I am amazed by the ability of every single Olympic competitor, regardless of their medal count.
It also amazes me that Australian sports administrators like Coates, with one third as many tax payers to fund them as the UK, are arrogant enough to expect to be funded at similar dollar amounts to the British - all at the expense of Australian science, education, defense, business development and healthcare. Perhaps people like Coates don't live in the real world, or perhaps they reflect the adolescence of Australia as a nation.Agree (0) Alert moderator
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Andrew:
25 Aug 2008 10:12:22pm
Last year, I was cleaning up my house for selling and pulled up the lino in the kitchen cupboards to find 50 year old women's magazines laid beneath. The gossip pages and the comment writings seemed mostly concerned with what was going on in London in relation to Australians living there. How our plays were better than theirs, but were being unfairly criticised, how unfriendly their buses were at the side of ours, how our morals and values remained superior to theirs. We were humble but wholesome Australians, held as victims of our circumstances, but traversing above our previous colonial masters on all fields of endeavour.
We really need to grow up.Agree (0) Alert moderator
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Meniga:
26 Aug 2008 12:05:23am
Considering the population of Australia compared to all of the countries in the top 10 of the medals tally I believe we have done remarkably well, not only in medals but having Aussies there competing in a wide range of sports regardless of whether or not they won medals.
Some of us (hopefully most of us) are proud of all our athletes who put so much time and effort into training and preparation to represent our great country of Australia.
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Jason:
26 Aug 2008 5:22:02am
Well written, sir. I've long since lost interest in the politics of sport. At a time when our hospitals are falling apart, we're facing a potential recession, and the minerals boom looks like coming to an inglorious end; the last thing we need is yet more multi-million dollar special pleading from sports apparatchiks like Coates, et al.
Australia's reputation in sport is already well-established. We don't need to spend like drunken sailors to maintain it, especially not on the farce that the Olympic movement has become.
From Berlin to Beijing, the only consistent theme of the Olympics is its' utter irrelevance to reality. The original Olympiads were meant to be a time of peace, where city-states would lay aside their quarrels, and compete under the aegis of the gods.
It'd never happen, but the only way to make the Olympics relevant is to go back to basics. Have one prize for first place, the proverbial laurel wreath, and don't bother maintaining performance records.
In a stroke, you'd almost solve the problem of doping, remove the justification for nationalist sabre ratttling, and put a sock in the incessant bleating of Messrs Coates and Co.
It'll never happen, but.Agree (0) Alert moderator
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monica:
26 Aug 2008 7:31:52am
The poms couldn't organise a mothers day fete, so it will be interesting event, a comedy I am sure. As for English sports people, Eddie the Eagle symbolises them perfectly, they try hard and every now and then they fluke one.
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